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29th May 2016

good morning everyone! 

guys can we limit the pings to 150 and below? it seems that Mig servers attract a lot of players from far away land, which is fine - BUT these people are impossible to kill - In many instances I shoot them, and see blood drop, but a second later they kill me with 100 health. I have no problem taking down Jellin, or Leadoff but it is impossible for me to kill anyone with 150+ ping. I think it will improve everyone's BF4 experience. My .02

Thank you
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29th May 2016

I agree with him on Ping limit.
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29th May 2016

yea I'm not sure what it is... some high pingers like over 200 I can hit and kill like anyone else, but some just flash around the screen. I'm not sure how but a fix for that issue would be nice. But how does one weed out the people lagging around the map vs the people who seem to be fine? It wouldn't exactly be fair to the people who have high ping but are stable to be restricted because of the "flashing around the screen" people.
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29th May 2016

We have to keep in mind our traffic, with the ping limit set so low the servers might be empty, but it could go both ways.

I wish network infrastructure in the states was better, where it doesn't take me 40 seconds to route to east coast
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29th May 2016

I think our limit is set to 250. Anything above that gets booted



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Quoteyea I'm not sure what it is... some high pingers like over 200 I can hit and kill like anyone else, but some just flash around the screen. I'm not sure how but a fix for that issue would be nice. But how does one weed out the people lagging around the map vs the people who seem to be fine? It wouldn't exactly be fair to the people who have high ping but are stable to be restricted because of the "flashing around the screen" people.
LOL - This is exactly what happens to me. People with high pings come around the corner already aiming down sights, and shooting. I would like to call them wall hackers (joking obviously) but I see their score and they are like 11kills 17 deaths lol....It's also hilarious to see guys just standing around casually and absorbing Scar-H shots like a sponge. ehhh..... ...does anyone know of a way to raise ping? lol .....use tunnel bear VPN and set location to Japan lol  
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29th May 2016

haha sign me up for that!
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29th May 2016

I don't wanna brag but I knifed Jell1n and N-J3CT



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29th May 2016

we already have a ping limit. and if you can not kill a guy in front of you just get good why am ii saying that? HERE:


AKA LOW PINGERS have advantage over the HIGH PINGERS


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Last Edit: 29th May 2016 by stupidkoala
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29th May 2016

We haven't seen good documentation from EA/Dice on Ping versus throughput.... What I mean by this is that I have played from a few different countries.... I have noticed that ping about 250 or less hasn't made a big difference in game play when the "bandwidth promised" is up to par (aka throughput).

I currently play from Germany with a 100 megabit line and get almost 0 complaints about my ping. Why? Because I have the bandwidth. Banning or kicking for ping is bad business, especially considering that the EU has better capable internet than the US. I am a slightly willing to lower the average ping kick average.... But, user-be-ware that if we lower it to far you don't have to worry about being frustrated about ping: your new concern will be about an empty server including banning US players (yes even @ 150 we will lose a lot of US players).
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29th May 2016

shit, almost forget to mention the increased tickrate... Pings within the US go up throughout the day because of the higher tickrate. Playing from San Fran area in the US, my ping would go from 75-90 to 125-175 during peak times and that was before the tickrate improvement by EA...... We have seen an increase in average pings and server performance since then..... Increased tickrate = increased ping..... Increased tickrate + peaktime = increased higher ping.
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29th May 2016

@ Thank you Koala for that video...

sums it up pretty good.
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29th May 2016

You can check his other video too for hit registry. he sums it up good too


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29th May 2016

With the US network, its undergoing constant changes to upgrade rural areas... not only that this year a HUGE acquisition of wireline services, DSL, Fiber, everything was completed this year into a single provider, and also more wireline service are said to go to that telco soon.

People that have bad internet should just move, or live with the correct expectations


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look at this trace route to server number 1.



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29th May 2016

I would like to see it dropped to 200. There only seems to be a handfull of players above that mark anyways.


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29th May 2016

warping is not exclusively associated with high pingers, most of the basic connections will warp and lag if someone in the household is raping youtube for example. then there's routing, which in some cases is beyond isp control. also in a lot of countries peak hour lag is a fact of life and depending on the time zone one can experience it from both ends at the same time (worst case scenario, for example morning peak on the one side and evening peak on the other). then there are those playing while capped (guilty), and even that varies from isp to isp. for example my current isp allows me to play fine when capped (256k?), while others cap at 64k, fine for quake but warping like mad on battlefield type games.
i generally agree with props on maximum ping of 250, from my experience that is the absolute game limit, and i avoid playing on anything over 200-220, but that just could be my own isp maxing out, i do recognize that some countries have much better internet in respect to australia.
some might find this of interest as well, you can visualize what lag feels like from both, the client and the server view point, along with some great explanations on how lag compensation works in general, just follow his links - http://www.gabrielgambett ... a.com/fpm_live.html
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Last Edit: 29th May 2016 by superhanssolo
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2nd Sep 2016

Well SK, not sure what you wanted to prove but the first video says right out that ping should be limited to 75 for everyone to have a good experience. He also said that SOMETIMES the low pinger has the advantage and other times the high pinger has the advantage.
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2nd Sep 2016

it's just to proove that people needs to chill over milliseconds....


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Anybody else play Quakeworld back in the day and remember the scourge of the LPB (Low Ping Bastard)? Hah, those of us with 56ks or whatever got demolished by the kiddies at college with the T1s etc. Luckily, I only had to suffer through it for about six months as we had broadband cable in my area as far back as 1997 (among the first in the state to have it), so I became a LPB as well. I became what I despised!!
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