BF4 Server #9: Infantry Only
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30th Dec 2015

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Battlelog Page: MIgaming.us #9 - Infantry Only

Last Edit: 14th Mar 2016 by PrOpR1oCePtIoN
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2nd Feb 2016

Hi guys, my name is Khalil and I play as Khalil_Expert

I am a regular in this server and I love it. Its real fun to see skillful players play infantry only. I love the maps and the settings.

However, there is a problem in this server that I bet many have seen, and I have heard people complain about in the server: Stacked teams.

I understand that there is a team balancer in the server, but I dont think its working correctly, as 90% of the time the teams are stacked. One team is constantly owning the other. And when the next map starts, the teams stay the same, so the same stacking happens. A team could go on and easily win many maps in a row. Its like people are hardly moved. Also Ive seen people with 130+ rank all stacked in one team while the other has very low rank players. 

Also, I have noticed how the same friends always play in the same team, regardless of when they join. I dont know if its the BF4 friends system or what, but the best regular players always seem to be in the same team or squad, constantly owning the other team. There is some regular players that are VERY good, and when 4 or 5 of them are always in the same team, it stacked it. 

I understand people like to play with their friends, but when half the server is getting hammered and owned constantly, many times without even holding a flag, it makes the game not fun and sometimes boring for the winning team. If some people are really good, wouldn't it be more fun to play against each other instead of always in the same team? You get good by playing against good players.

When the teams are even or close to even, the game is challenging, exciting and competitive.

What can be done about this?
- I have seen other servers where players are scrambled and put in teams based on skill level. 
- It would also helps the teams getting scrambled every map.

I hope my post dont sound like whinning, but this is a problem that needs addressed.

Thanks

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2nd Feb 2016

Not whining at all. I like to consider myself a fairly regular player on #9 and I agree with you. The best players are usually on the same team constantly. It could be something as simple as resetting a plugin or updating but I'm sure our Server manager will take a look into it. Thank you for taking the time to write this post and see you on the battlefield!



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2nd Feb 2016

I'll see if I can check the settings when I get home from the Blazers game tonight. I can do a remote restore so, is this something that just suddenly started happening one day? If so, when did it start?
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2nd Feb 2016

Thank you very much guys, this is actually been happening for months....
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4th Feb 2016

Made some changes to server no. 9's balancer settings. We shall see what happens.
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15th Feb 2016

Well, after playing with the new changes for 2 weeks:

- Based on my experience
- Based on the comments of players in game

The stacking continues...

The problem I see is that some people seem immune to team balance, either because of TeamSpeak or origin friends. When friends connect to their friends server it puts them in the same squad... so when the good players are friends or in the same clan, they always play together vs puggers. So the stack continues.

Also, the team dont scramble teams as often, sometimes the same teams plays 4-5 maps, making the stack go on for a while...
The team scrambler does not seem to scramble based on previous map performance or skill, seems random, as like I said previously, some people are immune to it.

My suggestions:

1. Scramble teams every 2 maps, based on skill or previous performance
2. Remove team balance immunity

I understand some people may hate the to be scrambled and play without their friends, but when the whole server suffer because of a few it does not seem fair.

I hope something is done about this

Thank you
Last Edit: 15th Feb 2016 by Khalil_Expert
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15th Feb 2016

Team Balance Immunity happens to be one of the perks when donating so that will not go away.



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15th Feb 2016

QuoteTeam Balance Immunity happens to be one of the perks when donating so that will not go away.
what cuban says is right. plus: the stacked sqauds can not be on the same team every game like you say. I get switched with my whole squad with the puggers as you call them more often then not. after all this is a Team based game not a 5 man squad game... By calling them puggers it looks like you think you are btter than anyone else playing our server. I personally hate this kind of attitude. When i get in a squad with lower skills players I try to give them hints to play better and give them more fun. Even IF WE LOSE. IT'S JUST A GAME. If you really think you need to win every game and be the best player let me tell you this:

You might be a god at Battlefield, but you will always suck at LIFE.



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15th Feb 2016

I can lower the scramble settings even more. People always complained about being moved mid-round, being moved from their squad of friends, amongst other things...... So, we only balance, no unstacking.
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17th Feb 2016

Quotewhat cuban says is right. plus: the stacked sqauds can not be on the same team every game like you say. I get switched with my whole squad with the puggers as you call them more often then not. after all this is a Team based game not a 5 man squad game... By calling them puggers it looks like you think you are btter than anyone else playing our server. I personally hate this kind of attitude. When i get in a squad with lower skills players I try to give them hints to play better and give them more fun. Even IF WE LOSE. IT'S JUST A GAME. If you really think you need to win every game and be the best player let me tell you this:

You might be a god at Battlefield, but you will always suck at LIFE.
Where do that came from? I think you misunderstood me. Back in Counter strike times, a PUG meant Pick Up Game... When I say puggers, its a term that means people not in clans or a community, it has nothing to do with skill. Its casual players that plays with other casual players, which includes me.

I dont get why you had to use harsh words towards me... Im trying to give some input into the server in a positive and respectful manner...

Last Edit: 17th Feb 2016 by Khalil_Expert
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17th Feb 2016

QuoteI can lower the scramble settings even more. People always complained about being moved mid-round, being moved from their squad of friends, amongst other things...... So, we only balance, no unstacking.

I havent seen people being switch mid round. Just when the server says teams will be scrambled next round, which is like every 4 maps or so

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4th Mar 2016

Not sure if it was done intentionally, but the ticket counts seem to be way off from what they usually are.

Just wanted to let you guys know.
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5th Mar 2016

I'll fix it in a bit. What I suspect is that when I restored settings earlier, I left all game modes to use default. Should be an easy fix.
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7th Mar 2016

Server 9 is in Normal Mode.



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10th Mar 2016

It was going custom for some reason. Added a fix so that it shouldn't happen again.
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14th Mar 2016

When you guys speak of server 9 is that #99? because i dont see #99 listed on forums?
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14th Mar 2016

No, Server 9 is Infantry Only Server.

You are correct though, Server 99 does not have its own forum.



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14th Mar 2016

I see in its title to check forums and its empty last check other wise I would be playing on it...
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14th Mar 2016

Hello Angry Cuban.
So whats going on with server 99..?
Something about volunteers?
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