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20th Sep 2016

Just removing the DLC maps won't be enough because most of the old vanilla rotation was replaced with DLC. Hopefully someone saved a list of what the old rotation was before changing it? If not I can probably reconstruct what it used to be from my battle reports.
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20th Sep 2016



QuoteYeah .. I hate to say it but DLC kills the server.  Huge thanks to Blyndness for trying something new for us -- I love the DLC maps personally and really appreciate him trying to work them in.
Exactly. The hours after Blyndness put the DLC in were probably the most fun I've had in months, but now the server is empty. Unless Visceral makes the DLCs free permanently, I don't think its possible to put DLC maps in the rotation and have it stay populated. 1/3-1/2 of the population at any one time is people who bought the game cheap and will play for a week and then give it up.
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20th Sep 2016

Thanks for the response guys. server is back the way it was.
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20th Sep 2016

It's not back to the way it was. It looks like the DLC has been removed, but when the DLC was added, a lot of the vanilla map/modes were removed or changed, too. So now we're down to a new small / kinda crappy rotation of vanilla maps.

I wrote a script to get the old list of maps/modes from my battle reports .. no idea what the order was, but here's the list. BTW, I was really tempted to take out dust bowl TDM (and replace it with hollywood heights TDM) to try to sneak that change in but I didn't :-)

mp_hills Bloodmoney0
mp_growhouse Bloodmoney0
mp_eastside TurfWarLarge0
mp_desert05 Bloodmoney0
xp25_bank Bloodmoney0
mp_eastside TeamDeathMatch0
mp_desert05 TurfWarLarge0
mp_bloodout TurfWarLarge0
mp_eastside Bloodmoney0
mp_desert05 Hotwire0
xp25_bank TurfWarLarge0
mp_eastside Hotwire0
mp_desert05 TeamDeathMatch0
mp_hills TurfWarLarge0
mp_glades TurfWarLarge0
mp_glades Bloodmoney0
mp_downtown TurfWarLarge0
mp_growhouse TeamDeathMatch0
mp_offshore Hotwire0
xp25_sawmill Bloodmoney0
mp_hills Heist0
mp_bank TeamDeathMatch0
mp_desert05 Heist0
mp_downtown Heist0
xp25_sawmill TurfWarLarge0
mp_downtown Bloodmoney0
mp_bank TurfWarLarge0
mp_downtown Hotwire0
mp_offshore TeamDeathMatch0
mp_offshore TurfWarLarge0
Last Edit: 20th Sep 2016 by picohertz
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22nd Sep 2016

The XPs are expansion packs so, I didn't add them in the list. I didn't find any DLCs in our current list either. But, based off of what used to be there per your post, I added some maps back in. Here is the current list:

mp_hills Heist0
mp_offshore BloodMoney0
mp_desert05 TurfWarLarge0
mp_bloodout Heist0
mp_offshore TeamDeathMatch0
mp_eastside Hotwire0
mp_bank TurfWarSmall0
mp_glades BloodMoney0
mp_bank TeamDeathMatch0
mp_hills BloodMoney0
mp_desert05 Heist0
mp_eastside TeamDeathMatch0
mp_bloodout TurfWarSmall0
mp_downtown BloodMoney0
mp_hills Heist0
mp_growhouse TeamDeathMatch0
mp_bloodout BloodMoney0
mp_downtown Hotwire0
mp_desert05 Hotwire0
mp_growhouse BloodMoney0
mp_bank TeamDeathMatch0
mp_downtown Heist0
mp_glades TurfWarLarge0
mp_eastside BloodMoney0
mp_downtown Heist0
mp_desert05 TeamDeathMatch0
mp_eastside TurfWarLarge0
mp_desert05 Bloodmoney0
mp_offshore TurfWarLarge0
mp_hills TurfWarLarge0
mp_downtown TurfWarLarge0

I am going to update a plugin so that the map list will randomize every time the server is restarted.
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22nd Sep 2016

Thanks! The xp25_ maps on my list are a free expansion (permanently free) so having those doesn't kill the server. They've been in the rotation forever. It was like the night ops or whatever thing with two night versions of existing maps.
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22nd Sep 2016

I think I remember some bug though where the two free expansion maps would ALWAYS follow one another. If the server got to Night Woods, it would always play Night Job, and vice versa. Of course, I don't know how it works, but I remember some discussion of this being a problem.


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23rd Sep 2016

Okay,

If xp25 is free continually, I'll add it back.
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23rd Sep 2016

Yup, it is. Thanks again man.
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3rd Oct 2016

Sorry to say this but this is better late then never but you guys should've added DLC or focused on the server when we had the big sale and we had peak of 4k players online. Now all of those people are gone and quit and most of them wanted DLC. Sorry Blynd but you acted way too late as Server Admin and I know you were busy playing BF4 all the time. I've got you added on Origin and tried to reach out to you when the sale was active and many people were wondering where is the DLC.

Also MIgaming.us 2 is played by alot of foreigners who also want to get their Hardline fix, i think you should be focusing on your HOME country not outsiders, all of the DLC servers i play on in NA are every single one of them are from NA or we have the one TW guy playing too. Not to mention when the sale was active NA servers were on FIRE. People just got bored, I wonder what've happened if MIgaming.us 2 would've switched to DLC during this time. Also the ping limit rule on the server is a big joke, people do not like playing vs high pingers so having it on MIgaming.us 2 the only NA normal server is a complete joke... Having the Limit in 400 or 300 even doesn't help at all and only kicks people who have instable ping. The Germans run it and there community has always been prospering. I wonder why they can enjoy the game so much and DLC but we can't? There is a reason why there are a German skin and a Japanese skin because they contributed the most to the PC community.

All MIgaming.us 2 is a server for foreigners to play on and have very little to do with any NA players. Only have a handful of them play on it then everybody else is high ping players and any serious player doesn't want to deal with that. I don't care for it but it's one of the many reasons why it's failing. I understand though high pinger players are better then none right? Well when we had that hot sale going on we had so many NA players. It was amazing! That would've been the right time to start improving the server instead of now after they are all gone.
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3rd Oct 2016

We welcome players from all over the world. We do not limit players based on region. We are sorry you feel negatively about this. Enjoy playing in our servers!


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3rd Oct 2016

The server did run DLC when it was free. It was full for a couple of weeks and then died when the 'sale' was over. It didn't recover until the DLC was removed. I hate playing against people with high ping too, but the danger is that the server might be empty without them. I'd rather have a full server with a lot of pingers than no server at all. Maybe the admins could try lowering the ping kick to 200 or something as an experiment.
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3rd Oct 2016

QuoteWe welcome players from all over the world. We do not limit players based on region. We are sorry you feel negatively about this. Enjoy playing in our servers!

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This isn't us somehow being racist and not wanting foreigners to play. This is a purely ping based issue. The ping limit right now is too high, and it very often creates extremely unbalanced matches, where the top 10 players on the other team have 150-200 pings and dominate.

If someone from Japan, or Brazil, or Germany wants to play on our servers and their ping is acceptable, GREAT! The more people the better.



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4th Oct 2016

150-200 ping will not create an "unfair advantage". Players in the US can hit pings close or higher during peak times depending on ISP and region of the country.



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4th Oct 2016

Quote150-200 ping will not create an "unfair advantage". Players in the US can hit pings close or higher during peak times depending on ISP and region of the country.
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Just to confirm, do you think these teams are perfectly balanced?




Last Edit: 4th Oct 2016 by taylorswiftttttt
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5th Oct 2016

Not sure what your measurement of balance is....

Last Edit: 6th Oct 2016 by Angry_Cuban13
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6th Oct 2016

QuoteNot sure what your measurement of balance is....

The video is broken



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6th Oct 2016

QuoteThe video is broken

Link has been fixed.



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8th Oct 2016

That video shows that players with large differences in ping have large advantages and disadvantages depending on the situation.

That is not okay. If everyone on the server had a low ping, these problems would not occur. Obviously this is not possible, but the lower the ping limit the better.


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8th Oct 2016

QuoteThat video shows that players with large differences in ping have large advantages and disadvantages depending on the situation.

That is not okay. If everyone on the server had a low ping, these problems would not occur. Obviously this is not possible, but the lower the ping limit the better.

If you want to keep playing on the MIg Hardline Server the ping limit will stay the same. Otherwise our server would be empty.



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