Why Battlefield 1 Sucks
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1. No hardcore mode. Forget being a one man army and wiping squads with one clip. Get used to having to reload after every kill, and get killed in the process.
2. It a pain in the ass to join your friends. Origin sucks.
3. Snipers don't One-Hit kill at close range, therefore making it pointless to be an "Attack Sniper". The sweet spot mechanic is a stupid attempt to balance snipers out by making them more useless and punishing skilled players.
4. Lack of Strategic Gameplay. It's more of a competition of who can throw more bodies at an objectives and get more kills, than it is about using other mechanics in the game to strategically take objectives. In bf4 there are a dozen variables that ways to arm an MCOM, in bf1 you just pile bodies, spam gas grenades, and hope the moron driving the tank moves up.  
5. It just doesnt feel SMOOTH like bf4 did. Yeah bf4 had glitches here but the physics just felt so much smoother. Bf1's feels alot more blocky, and slow. 
6. It's a re-skinned Star Wars Battlefront. 
7. It's feels like a WW2 game with WW1 skins, than an actual ww1 game due to all the tanks and automatic weapons.
8. Holding space to respawn is stupid and it just encourages placers to respawn as fast as they can instead of waiting for a medic.
9. Plays more like a Team Fortress game than a real Battlefield game. Catered to casuals. See #4  
10. Shitty UI. Spend more time fussing with the menu than just joining the fucking game.  
11. Lack of private, 3rd party servers. No way to build a community of players like MIg has. Get used to playing with randoms every time you join a server. 
11. No Flir. 

A lot of this can be forgiven, and it's very possible that I'll start liking the game more as I get more practice and time. But what bothers me most of all is the FEEL of the game. The way my player responds to movements and interacts with the environment. It doesn't feel smooth. It's very blocky.

Gameplay is also lacking in bf1.  Beyond classes basic functions, there's really not much depth to it. It feels like Team Fortress game, which isn't a bad thing, but it makes the gameplay very shallow compared to bf4. 

I really hope bf4 doesn't die, as I see myself possibly coming back. The lack of 3rd party servers is really crappy and makes it impossible to have fun communities like we have now.  
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31st Oct 2016

Private servers drop within the next couple days. Hardcore mode will be implemented soon as well. Not sure what your doing but never have any problems joining my friends.

I noticed you put the only reason that really matters to you at the very bottom. No Flir

If you no like. You no need play. Though your personal opinion is appreciated.
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If you need FLIR to be good, you probably suck.
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QuoteIf you need FLIR to be good, you probably suck.

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or friends, solo all the way! 
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1st Nov 2016

Quote1. No hardcore mode. Forget being a one man army and wiping squads with one clip. Get used to having to reload after every kill, and get killed in the process.
2. It a pain in the ass to join your friends. Origin sucks.
3. Snipers don't One-Hit kill at close range, therefore making it pointless to be an "Attack Sniper". The sweet spot mechanic is a stupid attempt to balance snipers out by making them more useless and punishing skilled players.
4. Lack of Strategic Gameplay. It's more of a competition of who can throw more bodies at an objectives and get more kills, than it is about using other mechanics in the game to strategically take objectives. In bf4 there are a dozen variables that ways to arm an MCOM, in bf1 you just pile bodies, spam gas grenades, and hope the moron driving the tank moves up.  
5. It just doesnt feel SMOOTH like bf4 did. Yeah bf4 had glitches here but the physics just felt so much smoother. Bf1's feels alot more blocky, and slow. 
6. It's a re-skinned Star Wars Battlefront. 
7. It's feels like a WW2 game with WW1 skins, than an actual ww1 game due to all the tanks and automatic weapons.
8. Holding space to respawn is stupid and it just encourages placers to respawn as fast as they can instead of waiting for a medic.
9. Plays more like a Team Fortress game than a real Battlefield game. Catered to casuals. See #4  
10. Shitty UI. Spend more time fussing with the menu than just joining the fucking game.  
11. Lack of private, 3rd party servers. No way to build a community of players like MIg has. Get used to playing with randoms every time you join a server. 
11. No Flir. 

A lot of this can be forgiven, and it's very possible that I'll start liking the game more as I get more practice and time. But what bothers me most of all is the FEEL of the game. The way my player responds to movements and interacts with the environment. It doesn't feel smooth. It's very blocky.

Gameplay is also lacking in bf1.  Beyond classes basic functions, there's really not much depth to it. It feels like Team Fortress game, which isn't a bad thing, but it makes the gameplay very shallow compared to bf4. 

I really hope bf4 doesn't die, as I see myself possibly coming back. The lack of 3rd party servers is really crappy and makes it impossible to have fun communities like we have now.  
1. Fixable and soon- it's already in the custom servers tab which means it coming very soon (I'm also annoyed that it isn't in the launch version)
2. Completely agree with you here, Using origin to join on people while the ingame version doesn't work 90% of the time is terrible.  Some of this will be fixed when private servers launch because you will just join our server .  With all the problems that origin is going through right now I think this was a bad move.  IT didn't work in SWBF and it doesn't work here either.
3. Snipers dont one hit kill at close range wont be an issue in HC as the min dmg of a sniper at any range is 60 to non extremity shots.  Therefore this is fixable.
4. I'm not sure which gamemode you are playing, but conquest has some of the better gameplay and map design that rewards teams for playing together.  Can't speak for the other gamemodes (CQD kind sucks, TDM always sucks, haven't played pigeon/rush cause i hate those gamemodes, and operations is the new meat grinder, dont enjoy linear gameplay that much).
5. At first I felt the same way, but once you get your mouse sensitivities right it feels similar.  There does seem to be quite a few ankle high things that stop movement side to side and the vaulting still isn't perfect (but neither was bf4s).
6. Cough it's the other way around, BF1 was in production prior to swbf...but if you are bitching about terrific textures and maps that look amazing I don't know how anything could please you.   To that point though, there are a few maps that fell extremely similar, sinai/argonne forest.
7. ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THIS- TANKS..... there weren't that many tanks in every engagement, this has annoyed me from the beginning. 100% agree with this one.  BUT this also leads me to believe that the next bf will be a ww2 closer to 1945 with alot of the experimental weaponry included.  
8. ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THIS- NO EXPLANATION NEEDED.
9. I don't quite understand why this is felt, they went back to the roots of bf2 with limited class usefullness instead of the massive cross over between classes like bf3 and 4.  I find that it does limit the replay-ability of the game but it is something that the bf series did way before TF.  Also playing a gamemode that pushed teamwork helps you not feel like a bunch of children, especially with TS interaction with said squad.
10. ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THIS- They changed nothing with the ui from SWBF to this and the style doesn't match the period.  Plus the server search/ quick join/ operations join all feels clunky and doesn't work most of the time.
11. This one is already being handled so I wont address it, but they are coming (hopefully tomorrow).
11. (2nd one)......Lol.  Get better, there's a reason why flir isn't allowed in competitive play and I'm happy to not see noobies getting an advantage just because they play with a flir and hide in a bush.

I definitely agree with several of your points and a few are fixable...

The only one that isn't on the list (and it may be that you just have newer equipment than I do), but the nvidia driver crashing every 20-60 minutes gets annoying really fast. 

Have fun hope to see you come back when HC releases...hopefully tomorrow.

BlackBartTX

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QuoteHave fun hope to see you come back when HC releases...hopefully tomorrow.
are we there yet?


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You are right on several points if you are talking about a realistic comparison to battles in the Great War. But as a Battlefield game they had to include more functional weapons and higher numbers of vehicles to match the gameplay people have become accustomed to with the franchise.

It's a Battlefield game with a WW1 theme, not a World War 1 game. A lot of people seem to forget this, actually making the multiplayer more realistic would not have made for a fun game to play online.

The interface has been fairly crappy but they are transferring to a new system and given the issues with literally every Battlefield game in the past at launch, I understand and expect most issues to be fixed and forgotten about in the upcoming months.
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With vehicles there just seems to be ALOT more of them in here vs previous bf titles. 6 planes at any given time, 5-6 tanks, minimal jeeps or quick items. In conquest this pushes you more toward assaulter than any previous battlefield (engineer) which were already highly played. There should not be a tank up at all times, there should be some downtime as opposed to a constant stream of HEAVY tanks. I think the least amount of kills I've ever gotten in a tank was 12, and it was in 2 minutes....Something isn't quite right with the balance, and it's usually made worse once one teams players start quiting since there is no mid game balancing done. Really makes for some lopsided games. Unfortunately with as high a skill score as I have I'm usually on the quitting side...

These balance issues are leading to being short handed at minimum 5 people, which is crazy.
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If everyone is looking for a realistic World War 1 game then go play Verdun... Enough said.



"The quieter you are, the more you are able to hear" ― Ram Dass

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Don't really care about realism but I ahve a problem when you get pigeon holed into playing only one class.
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QuoteDon't really care about realism but I ahve a problem when you get pigeon holed into playing only one class.
Unsure which class your stuck playing, I find Assault and Recon to by my exclusive classes and occasionally medic. Fuck support with a wooden dowel.




"The quieter you are, the more you are able to hear" ― Ram Dass

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3rd Nov 2016

When there are this many vehicles you must play assaulter if you want to win the game, which i do. Scouts just tickle tanks, medics dont do anything, and supports limpets charges resupply so slow they cant do enough dmg to be scary. Leaves only one option, unless you dont care whether or not you win....
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Why focus on winning when there isn't even a granular stat tracking / show off your stats kind of functionality

Battlefield 1 vs Battlefield 4 reminds me of the difference between World of Tanks: Blitz (Mobile game) and World of Tanks (Full Game).

They both are fun, but the complications and mechanics of BF4 far surpass BF1. It feels like BF1 was designed the same way battlefront was and that is to try to take market share away from CoD by using some of the same shit mechanics.



"The quieter you are, the more you are able to hear" ― Ram Dass

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3rd Nov 2016

I have heard this a couple of times and dont quite understand where it's coming from....did any of you play 1942 and bf2?  bf2 had 4 classes with only 2 load outs each and no customization, bf1 takes a step back in that direction which is refreshing (not every class should be good in every situation).  I think the lack of customization isn't that big of a deal, I also think it will make less of a difference once HC is out which we are all used to playing (especially given the one shot mechanic for sniper rifles in softcore).  Softcore kiddie shit is what we've been stuck with and I've always hated that style, Doritos and all.  In conquest the game mechanics haven't changed a bit.  They took out lock on weapons, flir, and other stupid mechanics that didn't add up correctly (eod bots killing potential etc).  BF4's close quarters hit detection and oddities are much more refined in bf1.  Once you have your mouse sensitivities setup the game feels much better (before you mess with your sensitivities the game feels really clunky, and dont forgot to set your fov as well).

Did you map out all of you mouse sensitivities from bf4 to port over to bf1, cause the system is much different (you must do it manually)?
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Actually BF2 had 6 classes:
Special Ops
Sniper
Assault
Support
Engineer
Medic
Anti-Tank

You're probably thinking of BF:BC2 - that only had 4 classes.
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nah just has been ages since I played it.
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i hate bf's normal mode, and i hate it with great passion.
so it's surprising that i'm starting to enjoy this game considering the lack of hardcore and no proper servers.
i'm loving the female announcer although the sound volume at the end of the game (the climax lol) is a little overbearing (it's bigly loud and I don't like the ww1 propaganda style , super-patriotic, star wars done badly composition). they should/could have used actual period songs form the respective countries involved, in its original language (german, turkish/etc). 

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FLIR-4-LIFE (Banned)
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4th Nov 2016

I'm tired of the stupid cut scene speeches in Operations mode

I want that british bitch to shut up already
and stop the wimpering and bad voice acting

the first time i played it was cool but its really annoying and repetitive at this point
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4th Nov 2016

Quotenvidia driver crashing every 20-60 minutes gets annoying really fast. 
what are your temps like?


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4th Nov 2016

75-80C which is well within specs.
I managed to not crash one time yesterday!!!
(there is a thread on battlefield 1 forums that is nearly 200 pages of complaints about this across a wide array of cards with fix suggestions and no resolution) things that were checked, drivers of gpu, drivers of other components, temperature, settings, dx12, if the game is windowed or fullscreen, if there's a specific map that sets it off, and a bunch of others. No resolution after 3 nvidia driver patches.

but the trade of was running into hs aimbots , at least 2 last night.
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