Spawn rape
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13th Apr 2016

I have heard differing explanations about what is going on with the DM clan in server 10.  Is there an official explanation?  Something we can use to determine if they are in conflict with a ruling?  Dare I say, a new not-stupid rule?

Or is this just a case-by-case thing and we'll have to unite as a community against things like this to inspire change?
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13th Apr 2016

Are YOU familiar with the rules? There is no rule against spawn camping.

What is going on with the DM platoon? What are they doing that is breaking the rules?



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13th Apr 2016

I AM familiar with the rules. I understand that the rules are set down not by dictatorial owners or admin, but decided on as a community. So when the community wants a new rule put in place, do we have a set method of affecting that?

As far as DM goes, I do not want to add to the fire of gossip. If there is someone in charge who wants to elaborate, it would be welcome.
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13th Apr 2016

Okay. You do understand why CMW was originally created, yes? NO STUPID RULES. Having a rule against spawn camping is stupid. If you have spawn campers then work as a team to get rid of them.

I happen to be an admin which in turn makes me "in charge" as you so pleasantly put it. I am elaborating. THEY ARE NOT BREAKING ANY RULES.



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13th Apr 2016

I'm not saying they are. You're the one who brought up spawn camping, I merely brought up DM. There has been lots of talk about this clan in ts recently. Thank you for elaborating.

So what can we, as a community, do to discuss this rule?
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13th Apr 2016

Your subject for this forum post literally reads "spawn rape" aka spawn camping, base raping, etc.

I am sure there have been "talks". Again, they are not breaking any rules. Just because they lack the skill to play like other players does not mean they need to be banned.

Discuss it. My opinion is that it is a stupid rule. We have no stupid rules. Anyone else can put their input.



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Last Edit: 13th Apr 2016 by Angry_Cuban13
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13th Apr 2016

good luck to get that out of the rules. this is basically why the Founders mande this community. because they were always spawn raping the enemy team and they would get kick/banned,,,, I wish you very big luck in your journey


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13th Apr 2016

Wait wait wait. So the very people who founded this "community" played with this lame playstyle? Why isn't this public knowledge? Never would have joined if I knew that. Of course they got kick/banned, that's an unwritten rule in nearly every FPS and every server.



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QuoteWait wait wait. So the very people who founded this "community" played with this lame playstyle? Why isn't this public knowledge? Never would have joined if I knew that. Of course they got kick/banned, that's an unwritten rule in nearly every FPS and every server.

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You call it lame play style, others call it your team fucking sucks. If you work as a team, spawn camping never happens.



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13th Apr 2016

Well like ive said MANY TIMES let them stay in the spawn i rearly see them because im OUT THERE WINNING THE ROUND and when i do see them most of the time i just kill them anyways
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13th Apr 2016

well said rock. If they get their jollies hanging around your spawn, let them be dumb. Or drive them crazy by smashing them. It does sound like they are not the best of players and I bet a couple of the regulars from TS could organize a good culling.



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13th Apr 2016

I mostly stick to server 9 and when a team is bad enough to get spawn camped/raped, it does make the round finish faster so hopefully the auto balancer can get it sorted out.



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13th Apr 2016

QuoteWell like ive said MANY TIMES  let them stay in the spawn i rearly see them because im OUT THERE WINNING THE ROUND and when i do see them most of the time i just kill them anyways
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This exactly. What they do is completely dumb, but honestly, if they want to "troll" the spawn area, usually in the game modes we play, we're able to spawn elsewhere. It's not too often where we are doing so horrible enough to be held down by 4 or 5 people. The way I see it is like how Rock put it. If they're in our spawn especially on Naval Strike maps, they're honestly so far out of the way, you have a 32 v 27 game going on. Kind of sucks when you're on that team with them, but it is possible to make up their less than average help. Just leave them alone, and they'll either get bored and leave OR for once play like the rest and be helpful.

I for one don't like the guys just because they're wasting space for people that would be happy to play with us, but they waited their turn like most people do to join the server, so they play the way they want.
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13th Apr 2016

Certainly not going to create a now spawn camping rule. ea/dice gave you a pretty liberal area around the main spawn that enemy can't get into. Perhaps you never played BF2..... That game allowed actual spawn camping.

It's in our guidelines to remove problematic players.... And we have stats tracking that aids us in determining if this is actually happening. I'll ensure it is on for server 10 when I get home and review it after the weekend then, go from there.

Just FYI, preveting planes from taking off our vehicles from reaching the front is a legit tactic.
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14th Apr 2016

I like shooting at the planes before they take off. Not my problem they can't make it out!


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14th Apr 2016

QuoteI'm not saying they are. You're the one who brought up spawn camping, I merely brought up DM. There has been lots of talk about this clan in ts recently. Thank you for elaborating.

So what can we, as a community, do to discuss this rule?

I spoke with the Community... She said you're a whiney little no-skilled bitch and spawn rape doesn't need discussion, it needs less little QQ'ing scrubs who cry instead of pushing out of their base. I agree with her.

QuoteWait wait wait. So the very people who founded this "community" played with this lame playstyle? Why isn't this public knowledge? Never would have joined if I knew that. Of course they got kick/banned, that's an unwritten rule in nearly every FPS and every server.

Does it need to be public knowledge, or do you lick the glass of the short bus? Sorry you're regretting membership... I like most people in MIG, feel free to leave, your care bear stare won't be missed.
Last Edit: 14th Apr 2016 by Zero327
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14th Apr 2016

Okay, I think we can leave the diatribes alone for a while. Loob, and many others have brought this up in chat, and what really bothers them, is that the players in question do not play the objective. They come in, and make a beeline for the opposing team's spawn area.

Now, I am of the mind set, that spawn camping, vehicle stealing, etc, is a legitimate tactic. Anything to deny transportation, or keep the enemy away from the objectives is to be encouraged. Like I said though, it is the fact that all these people do, is camp the spawns. It is not to help the team, or protect objectives. It is just being done for personal satisfaction.

Once again though, they are not breaking a rule. They are merely employing a tactic. So, please keep the personal attacks to a minimum. We are all adults, and everyone has the right to speak their mind.

If you find yourself being camped, move as a team and overcome. Be like Rock, kill them all...


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14th Apr 2016

Also, Zero327, don't be a douche.


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14th Apr 2016

we are the no stupid rulers, stupid is in our name and no rules is in our constitution.
that's it. no more and no less.
our bf4 servers are the popular choice, our admins are switched on and fair, and the ever expanding MLg community proves that we are doing something that is right.
spawn camping just adds another objective to the game and requires some more of your team work, maybe a few deep breaths with thoughts of your favorite "pets" (or OM.. as dalai lama would have it) - it really isn't a game breaker, excuse the pun.
as for the solutions, i don't have any, but "don't fix it if it ain't broken" springs to mind. the processes to affect change exist however, and this is the right place for it.


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14th Apr 2016

Just play the game.

Who cares what other people do.


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